Comments on: Manhattan Cricket http://fifthestate.co.uk/2007/03/manhattan-cricket/ Sat, 10 May 2008 20:58:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.4 by: Ashim http://fifthestate.co.uk/2007/03/manhattan-cricket/#comment-134372 Sun, 06 Apr 2008 18:10:50 +0000 http://fifthestate.co.uk/2007/03/manhattan-cricket/#comment-134372 I would like to play very well so i would like to do something for cricket in U S A .i think if we try we should can do that.let me chance me. I would like to play very well so i would like to do something for cricket in U S A .i think if we try we should can do that.let me chance me.

]]> by: Freidrich http://fifthestate.co.uk/2007/03/manhattan-cricket/#comment-69414 Sun, 23 Sep 2007 21:53:38 +0000 http://fifthestate.co.uk/2007/03/manhattan-cricket/#comment-69414 Hi Tracy, Enjoyed this entry a great deal. Since I am a great fan of cricket, courtesans, and you:-)) I read an interesting article in the German MAX Magazine, " Max Legendäre Big Ausgabe, October 2007" - and thought of you. An article on call girls, courtesans & charity. The call girl featured was "Kathleen Glyde". Hi Tracy,

Enjoyed this entry a great deal. Since I am a great fan of cricket, courtesans, and you:-))
I read an interesting article in the German MAX Magazine, ” Max Legendäre Big Ausgabe, October 2007″ - and thought of you. An article on call girls, courtesans & charity. The call girl featured was “Kathleen Glyde”.

]]> by: David sentance http://fifthestate.co.uk/2007/03/manhattan-cricket/#comment-39362 Sun, 17 Jun 2007 06:49:03 +0000 http://fifthestate.co.uk/2007/03/manhattan-cricket/#comment-39362 The Van Cortlandt Park and its manor are mentioned in the Revolutionary War as a site where British troops wiped out a party of pro-American Indians. Cricket in Van Cortlandt Park was definitely played in the 1900's when the West Indian players began to outstrip English trained players in batting and bowling. There's even a possibility that the proprietors of Carolina who came from Barbados in 1760 also brought the early rudiments of cricket with them. Therefore, West Indian cricket in America conceivably has a 250 year tradition and was one of the conduits of political education and democracy in the islands. Cricket was also played in New York's Central Park in 1862 before baseball established itself as a fully professional game and thereby set the template for American team sport competition. No wonder Ralph Lauren sells RL New York Cricket Club shirts in his latest collection-he's doing brilliant subliminal marketing by tapping cricket's mythic New York past.. David Sentance The Van Cortlandt Park and its manor are mentioned in the Revolutionary War as a site where British troops wiped out a party of pro-American Indians. Cricket in Van Cortlandt Park was definitely played in the 1900’s when the West Indian players began to outstrip English trained players in batting and bowling. There’s even a possibility that the proprietors of Carolina who came from Barbados in 1760 also brought the early rudiments of cricket with them. Therefore, West Indian cricket in America conceivably has a 250 year tradition and was one of the conduits of political education and democracy in the islands. Cricket was also played in New York’s Central Park in 1862 before baseball established itself as a fully professional game and thereby set the template for American team sport competition. No wonder Ralph Lauren sells RL New York Cricket Club shirts in his latest collection-he’s doing brilliant subliminal marketing by tapping cricket’s mythic New York past..
David Sentance

]]> by: David Sentance http://fifthestate.co.uk/2007/03/manhattan-cricket/#comment-37077 Sat, 09 Jun 2007 22:16:08 +0000 http://fifthestate.co.uk/2007/03/manhattan-cricket/#comment-37077 Tracy, I enjoyed your column and your comments about the 'bashing' of baseball by cricketers who have never swung a basball bat.. Many Australian test cricketers have played baseball including greats such as Alan Border and Ian Chappell. Infact cricket now employs baseball coaches in England to teach cricketers to throw better. This year's World Cup was an illustration that countries competent in cross training through multiple sports such as rugby, soccer and cricket generally do better than those who treat cricket as a religion-secular or otherwise! In regard to America versus the US I take the diving line as when British North America became the United 13 colonies on the evacuation of British troops from New York in 1783. Those same troops played cricket near the Fulton Market, Flatbush and several other places on Manhattan Island. US Cricket was played in Harlem and then Hoboken by a new wave of British immigrants that infuesed cricket with new life and professionals. It was professional cricketers that helped baseball from 1845 onwards such as Harry and George Wright. They played against Canada in 1853 at Hoboken 23 years before the Staten Island Cricket and Baseball Club was founded in 1876. Cricket in Manhattan even had its own Knickerbocker team-but like good Americans we cricketers tend to forget our illustrious US cricket history. David Sentance, Crickete in America 1710-2000 (McFarland Press 2006) Tracy,
I enjoyed your column and your comments about the ‘bashing’ of baseball by cricketers who have never swung a basball bat.. Many Australian test cricketers have played baseball including greats such as Alan Border and Ian Chappell. Infact cricket now employs baseball coaches in England to teach cricketers to throw better. This year’s World Cup was an illustration that countries competent in cross training through multiple sports such as rugby, soccer and cricket generally do better than those who treat cricket as a religion-secular or otherwise!
In regard to America versus the US I take the diving line as when British North America became the United 13 colonies on the evacuation of British troops from New York in 1783. Those same troops played cricket near the Fulton Market, Flatbush and several other places on Manhattan Island. US Cricket was played in Harlem and then Hoboken by a new wave of British immigrants that infuesed cricket with new life and professionals. It was professional cricketers that helped baseball from 1845 onwards such as Harry and George Wright. They played against Canada in 1853 at Hoboken 23 years before the Staten Island Cricket and Baseball Club was founded in 1876. Cricket in Manhattan even had its own Knickerbocker team-but like good Americans we cricketers tend to forget our illustrious US cricket history.
David Sentance, Crickete in America 1710-2000 (McFarland Press 2006)

]]> by: ian Williams http://fifthestate.co.uk/2007/03/manhattan-cricket/#comment-19385 Wed, 28 Mar 2007 22:08:13 +0000 http://fifthestate.co.uk/2007/03/manhattan-cricket/#comment-19385 I used to say I wrote about everything but sport then some ten years ago I was asked to do a piece for the Independent on Cricket in New York. Staten island boasts North America's oldest cricket pitch, and also hosted the first international - between Toronto and NY. One problem is that there were several different leagues - a sort of Anglo/WASP Ivy League on, Subcontinental and Caribbean. But it was an active culture - just missing publicity, because the WASPS didn't see the need for publicity and the others couldn't get. There's still hope. Shashi has been very busy in New York so I presume he did not get around much! I used to say I wrote about everything but sport then some ten years ago I was asked to do a piece for the Independent on Cricket in New York. Staten island boasts North America’s oldest cricket pitch, and also hosted the first international - between Toronto and NY.
One problem is that there were several different leagues - a sort of Anglo/WASP Ivy League on, Subcontinental and Caribbean. But it was an active culture - just missing publicity, because the WASPS didn’t see the need for publicity and the others couldn’t get.
There’s still hope.
Shashi has been very busy in New York so I presume he did not get around much!

]]> by: Tracy Quan http://fifthestate.co.uk/2007/03/manhattan-cricket/#comment-19372 Wed, 28 Mar 2007 19:21:31 +0000 http://fifthestate.co.uk/2007/03/manhattan-cricket/#comment-19372 A very good point, Anju. I too have favourite writers who make ornery impolitic statements in public. It only makes them more interesting. But you can't blame me for being dismayed by Tharoor's stereotypical view of America. For example, listen to this report on the World Cup from San Francisco. They have FIFTY amateur teams! http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=9134343 A very good point, Anju. I too have favourite writers who make ornery impolitic statements in public. It only makes them more interesting.

But you can’t blame me for being dismayed by Tharoor’s stereotypical view of America. For example, listen to this report on the World Cup from San Francisco. They have FIFTY amateur teams!

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=9134343

]]> by: Anju Chandel http://fifthestate.co.uk/2007/03/manhattan-cricket/#comment-17794 Sat, 24 Mar 2007 17:08:47 +0000 http://fifthestate.co.uk/2007/03/manhattan-cricket/#comment-17794 Well, Tracy, I do agree with you that Shashi Tharoor wasn't at his diplomatic best in his column on cricket. Hey, that could have been primarily because of his longing to be a spectator at that spectacular event - the Cricket World Cup! I am sure the world can try to understand him in a more mature way and not get offended and scathe him for his 'die-hard' love for cricket on the op-ed pages of the New York Times. Once in a while we all should let even a great personality like Shashi Tharoor - an accomplished author & diplomat - behave like an ordinary human being. I don't think he had anything against America or Americans in particular. Hey you great guys, just forget and forgive. I think that is what is life all about :) Well, Tracy, I do agree with you that Shashi Tharoor wasn’t at his diplomatic best in his column on cricket. Hey, that could have been primarily because of his longing to be a spectator at that spectacular event - the Cricket World Cup! I am sure the world can try to understand him in a more mature way and not get offended and scathe him for his ‘die-hard’ love for cricket on the op-ed pages of the New York Times. Once in a while we all should let even a great personality like Shashi Tharoor - an accomplished author & diplomat - behave like an ordinary human being. I don’t think he had anything against America or Americans in particular. Hey you great guys, just forget and forgive. I think that is what is life all about :)

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